And the plot thickens...

[Jester]

do ut des, thank you very much, a lot of interesting information!
I need to make a lot of research.

[DaysGoneBy]

the plot is thick all right....P. Taylor Kramer....now that is one wild story...Randy never said a word about it..[that I can find].....google it........the Miss Shadow's OD...Jackie said nothing I can find.....[and the press is holding back].....google it.....and then Teto's, ex-wife DeDe...did the new husband ever confess ?.........Enid, is a natural death, but now some say otherwise...[I think it looks natural, Jackie's ex-wife]

I remember the P. Taylor Kramer case being profiled on "Unsolved Mysteries" years ago (I wonder if it's on U-Tube?) But I never heard he & his van were eventually found in some canyon years later! I have been suspicious of Randy myself and found some other stuff about him (don't know how valid though) He was once kidnapped in Mexico by thugs and held for a week before escaping (drugs?) He once intruded into Tina Turners home drunk and she shot at him. MJ appointed him Manager of Neverland during the Trial and he claimed he lent MJ hundreds of thousands to keep N-Land running during that time, and he was the one who fired Raymone Bain. (The source for all this is spirits-temporis.com) Brian since you are the PI maybe you can find a way to verify these things?

[brianpi]

Hi I just got back to my old laptop.....The case was researched by other people....[I found it on the web, but did not save the link].. it was in the LA TImes....My interest was in the high tech. business side of the story......anything that comes along and is important for us little people to have control over, seems to get people killed.....or thrown in jail, and then killed...

[do ut des]

Hi I just got back to my old laptop.....The case was researched by other people....[I found it on the web, but did not save the link].. it was in the LA TImes....My interest was in the high tech. business side of the story......anything that comes along and is important for us little people to have control over, seems to get people killed.....or thrown in jail, and then killed...

Hi! Just came back from holidays... I'll try to update info asap.

[brianpi]

do ut des.....Your research is always good ....and I have your comment on my blog....the Mafia connection to MJ's history will keep being uncovered for a long time......The media is silent on this most important part of the MJ story.....just like they did with the OJ story....WHY?

[do ut des]

do ut des.....Your research is always good ....and I have your comment on my blog....the Mafia connection to MJ's history will keep being uncovered for a long time......The media is silent on this most important part of the MJ story.....just like they did with the OJ story....WHY?

I guess "The Syndicate" might have some answers to our questions... http://www.scribd.com/doc/3893328/Lansky

[DaysGoneBy]

the plot is thick all right....P. Taylor Kramer....now that is one wild story...Randy never said a word about it..[that I can find].....google it........the Miss Shadow's OD...Jackie said nothing I can find.....[and the press is holding back].....google it.....and then Teto's, ex-wife DeDe...did the new husband ever confess ?.........Enid, is a natural death, but now some say otherwise...[I think it looks natural, Jackie's ex-wife]

I remember the P. Taylor Kramer case being profiled on "Unsolved Mysteries" years ago (I wonder if it's on U-Tube?) But I never heard he & his van were eventually found in some canyon years later! I have been suspicious of Randy myself and found some other stuff about him (don't know how valid though) He was once kidnapped in Mexico by thugs and held for a week before escaping (drugs?) He once intruded into Tina Turners home drunk and she shot at him. MJ appointed him Manager of Neverland during the Trial and he claimed he lent MJ hundreds of thousands to keep N-Land running during that time, and he was the one who fired Raymone Bain. (The source for all this is spirits-temporis.com) Brian since you are the PI maybe you can find a way to verify these things?

Maybe Randy J. was just an investor in Kramer's Tech company?

Anyway, more on Randy: He once served a jail term for assualting his wife and kid, once commited to a psychiatric facility, more here http://sober-companion.dr-sober.com/sea ... %20jackson

Also, I heard (from what I consider a reliable source) that Randy had drugged MJ and was able to get drugs. After Randy's recent mysterious hospital visit it makes me wonder what his involvement is on that final day at Carrollwood. In addition, do you remember seeing reports that Randy was actually present at that house the day MJ died? In the US reports he was not mentioned as being there, but there were some British reports (Daily Mirror?) that gave accounts of Randy being on site that day (I will try to find them....)

[brianpi]

Hi.... DaysGoneBy....My interest in the MJ case [other than the short time the office was involved] is in these "other crimes" that took place around MJ and the Jackson family.....I was hired by a movie of the week production back in 1995 to work on a film project related to the same group of players we find in the MJ case.....the movie was to be about OJ Simpson"s life before the murders happened...[the production got shut down...why?].....I worked for some of OJ's friends in Las Vegas....this Las Vegas circle of people included Jack Gordon and Kardashian....a friend of mine [that I will not name] was dating OJ's ex-girl friend just befor the killings..........Your research is very interesting....I can't do it better, or even as good.........when you work at a private investigation agency, the office pays for information sources that are very hard to come by legally....Now that I have retired I do not have these tools to use....it costs about $350 US. a month to have these services, or you can pay some other agency to get information for you....some of the harder to get stuff [intel] can cost over $1000 just for one question....{the ilegal stuff]....but one lucky trash day can get it all for free...